Теперь, наверное, стоит привести несколько отдельных случаев. А то некоторые посетители в соседнем треде, прочитав статью на Inauka.ru и посмотрев фильм Артура Кларка, уже громко кричат "ура" :)))
Случай первый - довольно известная история со вставной челюстью, случившаяся в Нидерландах. Кстати, одно время она курсировала и по нашим СМИ, но с абсолютным минимумом подробностей и порой очень забавными купюрами.
А вот, собственно, оригинал (цит. по van Lommel P, van Wees R, Meyers V, Elfferich I. Near-death experience in survivors of cardiac arrest: a prospective study in the Netherlands, Lancet 2001; 358: 2039–45)
During the pilot phase in one of the hospitals, a coronary-care-unit nurse reported a veridical out-ofbody experience of a resuscitated patient: “During a night shift an ambulance brings in a 44- year-old cyanotic, comatose man into the coronary care unit. He had been found about an hour before in a meadow by passers-by. After admission, he receives artificial respiration without intubation, while heart massage and defibrillation are also applied. When we want to intubate the patient, he turns out to have dentures in his mouth. I remove these upper dentures and put them onto the ‘crash car’. Meanwhile, we continue extensive CPR. After about an hour and a half the patient has sufficient heart rhythm and blood pressure, but he is still ventilated and intubated, and he is still comatose. He is transferred to the intensive care unit to continue the necessary artificial respiration. Only after more than a week do I meet again with the patient, who is by now back on the cardiac ward. I distribute his medication. The moment he sees me he says: ‘Oh, that nurse knows where my dentures are’. I am very surprised. Then he elucidates: ‘Yes, you were there when I was brought into hospital and you took my dentures out of my mouth and put them onto that car, it had all these bottles on it and there was this sliding drawer underneath and there you put my teeth.’ I was especially amazed because I remembered this happening while the man was in deep coma and in the process of CPR. When I asked further, it appeared the man had seen himself lying in bed, that he had perceived from above how nurses and doctors had been busy with CPR. He was also able to describe correctly and in detail the small room in which he had been resuscitated as well as the appearance of those present like myself. At the time that he observed the situation he had been very much afraid that we would stop CPR and that he would die. And it is true that we had been very negative about the patient’s prognosis due to his very poor medical condition when admitted. The patient tells me that he desperately and unsuccessfully tried to make it clear to us that he was still alive and that we should continue CPR. He is deeply impressed by his experience and says he is no longer afraid of death. 4 weeks later he left hospital as a healthy man.”
ВАЖНО: прежде чем делать какие-либо выводы или вопросы, всем интересующимся нужно обязательно прочесть (помимо источника цитаты) следующие статьи по этой теме: Smit R. Corroboration of the Dentures Anecdote Involving Veridical Perception in a Near-Death Experience (Journal of Near-Death Studies, 27(1), Fall 2008). (эту статью, в отличие от трёх остальных, мне сейчас не удалось отыскать в сети, но могу прислать её на мейл как pdf). Rivas T. English Translation of Transcript of Interview with TG about the “Man with the Dentures” (Translated from original article in Terugkeer 19(3), Autumn 2008). Smit R, Rivas T. Rejoinder to “Response to ‘Corroboration of the Dentures Anecdote Involving Veridical Perception in a Near-Death Experience’” (Journal of Near-Death Studies, 28(4), Summer 2010).
Эти материалы проясняют некоторые важные детали (при этом местами дублируя друг друга). Если бы наши журналисты их почитали, может и не стали бы менять пол бедному санитару...DDD Хотя этим зверством отметились и некоторые англоязычные журналюги.
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Date: 2012-05-02 11:25 am (UTC)Случай первый - довольно известная история со вставной челюстью, случившаяся в Нидерландах. Кстати, одно время она курсировала и по нашим СМИ, но с абсолютным минимумом подробностей и порой очень забавными купюрами.
А вот, собственно, оригинал (цит. по van Lommel P, van Wees R, Meyers V, Elfferich I. Near-death experience in survivors of cardiac arrest: a prospective study in the Netherlands, Lancet 2001; 358: 2039–45)
During the pilot phase in one of the hospitals, a
coronary-care-unit nurse reported a veridical out-ofbody
experience of a resuscitated patient:
“During a night shift an ambulance brings in a 44-
year-old cyanotic, comatose man into the coronary care
unit. He had been found about an hour before in a
meadow by passers-by. After admission, he receives
artificial respiration without intubation, while heart
massage and defibrillation are also applied. When we
want to intubate the patient, he turns out to have
dentures in his mouth. I remove these upper dentures
and put them onto the ‘crash car’. Meanwhile, we
continue extensive CPR. After about an hour and a half
the patient has sufficient heart rhythm and blood
pressure, but he is still ventilated and intubated, and he
is still comatose. He is transferred to the intensive care
unit to continue the necessary artificial respiration. Only
after more than a week do I meet again with the patient,
who is by now back on the cardiac ward. I distribute his
medication. The moment he sees me he says: ‘Oh, that
nurse knows where my dentures are’. I am very
surprised. Then he elucidates: ‘Yes, you were there
when I was brought into hospital and you took my
dentures out of my mouth and put them onto that car, it
had all these bottles on it and there was this sliding
drawer underneath and there you put my teeth.’ I was
especially amazed because I remembered this happening
while the man was in deep coma and in the process of
CPR. When I asked further, it appeared the man had
seen himself lying in bed, that he had perceived from
above how nurses and doctors had been busy with CPR.
He was also able to describe correctly and in detail the
small room in which he had been resuscitated as well as
the appearance of those present like myself. At the time
that he observed the situation he had been very much
afraid that we would stop CPR and that he would die.
And it is true that we had been very negative about the
patient’s prognosis due to his very poor medical
condition when admitted. The patient tells me that he
desperately and unsuccessfully tried to make it clear to
us that he was still alive and that we should continue
CPR. He is deeply impressed by his experience and says
he is no longer afraid of death. 4 weeks later he left
hospital as a healthy man.”
ВАЖНО: прежде чем делать какие-либо выводы или вопросы, всем интересующимся нужно обязательно прочесть (помимо источника цитаты) следующие статьи по этой теме:
Smit R. Corroboration of the Dentures Anecdote Involving Veridical Perception in a Near-Death Experience (Journal of Near-Death Studies, 27(1), Fall 2008). (эту статью, в отличие от трёх остальных, мне сейчас не удалось отыскать в сети, но могу прислать её на мейл как pdf).
Rivas T. English Translation of Transcript of Interview with TG about the “Man with the Dentures” (Translated from original article in Terugkeer 19(3), Autumn 2008).
Smit R, Rivas T. Rejoinder to “Response to ‘Corroboration of the Dentures Anecdote Involving Veridical Perception in a Near-Death Experience’” (Journal of Near-Death Studies, 28(4), Summer 2010).
Эти материалы проясняют некоторые важные детали (при этом местами дублируя друг друга). Если бы наши журналисты их почитали, может и не стали бы менять пол бедному санитару...DDD Хотя этим зверством отметились и некоторые англоязычные журналюги.